Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people from Akron, Ohio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

List of people from Akron, Ohio

List of people from Akron, Ohio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Plain and simple, it's entirely redundant to Category:People from Akron, Ohio, which even the edit history indicates. Don't fall asleep ^zzzzzz 05:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

• Delete There really should be a speedy delete for redundant material, which this is, so delete it. --Pstanton 07:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstanton (talk • contribs)
• Keep - The common user sees pages, not categories and history. Redundant to those of us who know our way around, but not for those who come here looking for this exact type of information. Keep. Hooper (talk) 07:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete and redirect to category if desirable. Punkmorten (talk) 09:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete This list has no redeeming features. People who don't know about categories can find them with the search box. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep. Lists can be annotated; categories cannot. Powers ^T 14:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete This has never attempted to be anything more than a duplicate of a category, nor do I expect that anyone will ever attempt to annotate it after three years. Other than that "The following people were all born in, residents of, or otherwise closely associated with Akron, Ohio, and its surrounding metropolitan statistical area, including Portage County, Ohio, and Summit County, Ohio," this gives no clue as to the importance of Aiden Tozer or any of the other entries. In fact, the list doesn't even give a clue as to what connection someone might have to Akron. I don't buy the idea that we have to make copies of every category for the benefit of folks who don't know their way around. Mandsford (talk) 14:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - lists and categories are not duplicates, but have independent uses. That this hasn't reached it's maximum potential is not a criterion for deletion. WilyD 15:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - as Wily and LtPowers have said, lists and categories fulfil different functions and the list here is not "redundant" to the other. Just because not much work has gone into improving the list does not mean that it never will or that time is now up (unless there is now a timelimit that nobody told me about!) Bencherlite^Talk 16:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep After I updated the article I plan to sort the people by last name under subheadings, add a breif comment about their association with Akron, and of course, reference it. Does it need cleaned up? Yes. Please see other examples of what this article is aiming for here. §hep • ^Talk 16:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Delete. Fully redundant to Category:People from Akron, Ohio. A classic Granfalloon. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Similarity between a list and a category is NOT a reason for deletion. Period. Hooper (talk) 22:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it would be if the list was not able to be annotated usefully. There are some situations in which having both would be redundant. Powers ^T 20:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

• Keep, I don't see the point of spending time looking after these if they are identical to the category but Stepshep is prepared to "add value" to it so time should be given. Brownsnout spookfish (talk) 22:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep, I think this list should be cleaned up and put in order (alph.) like on the other articles of list of people. Take a look at the article List of people from Dayton, Ohio, this gives ideals on how to improve the article. OHWiki (talk) 00:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep The normal way to do lists-of-people-from-place is to include them in a list in the article under a section, "Notable natives and residents" (see WP:USCITY), but only if there are a small number; this list is following the standard method of splitting out a list that would otherwise overwhelm Akron, Ohio by its length. Nyttend (talk) 06:06, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.