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| Fuck Myne, Love you Raphtalia, I need someone to hug me too |
| “You should enjoy the little detours to the fullest. Because that's where you'll find the things more important than what you want.” |
| I see a lot of people saying that they prefer the manga version, but I personally found the anime adaptation to be much more enjoyable. Sure it had its flaws, but the manga had many more flaws imo. The manga doesn't even make me feel sorry for anyone (even Raphtalia isn't as much of a likeable character), while the anime makes me feel empathy for everyone (besides the b***h princess and the a*****e king). |
Anime ga daaaai suki!!! Computer Engineering. Japan is awesome!!! |
| [quote=Lelouch0202 message=56837055] Though I recall that in the WN, he was actually consumed in flames in the real world too by the curse series or maybe it was always in his head. /quote] I'm not reading the WN or manga yet but I'm confused by one thing. Are they really inside a game or is he in another world? Is it like SAO where he can log out or is he stuck there? I'm guessing it's the latter but I'm a dumbass so I still don't know. Anyways, great episode and I kept yelling while watching, I wanted that bitch princess and the Spear Hero to get murdered. At least the other two heroes admitted to seeing Myne cheat. It's great that Raph is loyal to Naofumi despite all the fake rumors about him but I honestly don't care about their love story. I'm more interested in how Naofumi will get his revenge on everyone that fucked him over. I also want to see his future party members, especially that chicken girl. |
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Demyx_IX said: SSL443 said: No, its its not lazy writing and you're an idiot who has missed the point and misinterpreted what I said.Thank you for making my point for me. They knew him for two fucking days. They have no reason to even be involved, let alone condemn him to the degree that they do. This combination of circumstances is what makes their behavior questionably convenient. So yeah, it is "lazy wirting", you just want to disagree with me for the sake of it. Uhh, but you're the one not making sense here, fam. They actually still know him for "two days". Checkmate. 6/10 episode btw. The fight was kind of nice but the story still doesn't make any sense. |
Kamiyan3991 said: Given the fact that you made a bait thread complaining about the information of the world not being laid out there in the first 3 episodes, you don't have room to talk.Demyx_IX said: No, its its not lazy writing and you're an idiot who has missed the point and misinterpreted what I said. Uhh, but you're the one not making sense here, fam. They actually still know him for "two days". Checkmate. 6/10 episode btw. The fight was kind of nice but the story still doesn't make any sense. |
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Demyx_IX said: Given the fact that you made a bait thread complaining about the information of the world not being laid out there in the first 3 episodes, you don't have room to talk. Trying to pass the buck, are we? |
Demyx_IX said: SSL443 said: No, its its not lazy writing and you're an idiot who has missed the point and misinterpreted what I said.Thank you for making my point for me. They knew him for two fucking days. They have no reason to even be involved, let alone condemn him to the degree that they do. This combination of circumstances is what makes their behavior questionably convenient. So yeah, it is "lazy wirting", you just want to disagree with me for the sake of it. What the fuck is with people and the name calling? Can't y'all have a debate without such things? But on to the actual topic. It's pretty convenient to the plot that the bow and sword hero just accepted the false accusation. Which is why it's being called lazy writing. They didn't need to spring to his defense or condemn him. They don't know him, nor are they given any other evidence about him. They also don't know Myne that well. Nor do they know the king or the kingdom that well. Nobody knows anybody so why should they take sides so quickly? Why believe the woman you have known for two days and not the man you've known for two days? There has to be something else to encourage those two to pick a side. This isn't the average he said she said simply because they are in a new world. A world where they know absolutely nothing. The spear hero is super gullible especially when it comes to women, so there is his internal motivation for believing the allegation. The bow and sword hero don't have such a handicap. Yes they are both arrogant, and they may even believe that the shied is a subpar weapon because as gamers they prefer direct attacks. But to jump from that to believing that anyone who uses a shield is a bad person? Or what...so because he doesn't play video games like the rest of them that makes him a bad person? I guess one can argue that this is all about prejudices? But what kind of prejudice is that? That people who aren't gamers, or people who prefer characters with high defense stats are horrible people?   So bow and sword just had a feeling? Right dudes, whatever. Yeah I think the writing is lazy, though possibly for a different reason than SSL443. Specifically the other three heroes don't have enough depth to be proper antagonists. It's just super shallow. |
mecegirlFeb 1, 2019 8:04 AM
Kamiyan3991 said: Not at all. I'm just pointing out that you have a history of complaining about not understanding the story.Demyx_IX said: Given the fact that you made a bait thread complaining about the information of the world not being laid out there in the first 3 episodes, you don't have room to talk. Trying to pass the buck, are we? |
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Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< |
Tinkman said: she gained more levels so she is older now. She was a teenager previous episode. Still a cutie though.Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< |
Tinkman said: Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< Sounds like the upgrade made hero into waifu... I mean heroine material |
Tinkman said: Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< ... I actually didn't notice, but did find myself thinking something was different about her somehow. Good catch! I wonder why the anime team thought it was necessary to make that change? I think I prefer the original look. |
Killuan said: Tinkman said: she gained more levels so she is older now. She was a teenager previous episode. Still a cutie though.Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< But in manga she wasn't changing appearance after transforming to adult from kid, just look at the screens from manga |
Demyx_IX said: Kamiyan3991 said: Not at all. I'm just pointing out that you have a history of complaining about not understanding the story.Trying to pass the buck, are we? This story doesn't make sense tho. Episode 4 also has some dumb moments, so I posted them in the "bait" thread. TBH, the word "bait" is so overused. Same goes for SJW. |
Tinkman said: I know. The anime gave her an additional transition phase. She was only lvl 18 at start of episode 3 but is level 25 this episode.Killuan said: she gained more levels so she is older now. She was a teenager previous episode. Still a cutie though. But in manga she wasn't changing appearance after transforming to adult from kid, just look at the screens from manga |
| For those complaining about slavery in this anime: Just remember how Raphtalia is treated compared to Tyuule  Both are isekai demi-human slaves but with just different masters. This isn't the first recent anime that portrayed slavery. You see it in Overlord, Gate, etc. Just remember that they are portrayed in medieval societies. Btw, this will be Malty/Myne/Bitch in a few episodes after the Queen:  |
Kamiyan3991 said: It's only complicated because you're not paying attention to what is going on. Thanks for proving my pointDemyx_IX said: Not at all. I'm just pointing out that you have a history of complaining about not understanding the story. This story doesn't make sense tho. Episode 4 also has some dumb moments, so I posted them in the "bait" thread. TBH, the word "bait" is so overused. Same goes for SJW. |
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Tinkman said: I mean raphtalia in episode three looked much younger than manga/LN raphtalia...so this version is more accurate. Also in the LN raphtalia trims her bangs so that's why her hairstyle was changed.Maurice_5 said: ... I actually didn't notice, but did find myself thinking something was different about her somehow. Good catch! I wonder why the anime team thought it was necessary to make that change? I think I prefer the original look. I'm glad I'm not alone with that feeling along these cheers to this show while such significant changes were made with character, with which I am not happy at all. Seems like I'll have to back to read manga and ranobe |
KilluanFeb 1, 2019 9:57 AM
Tinkman said: yeah it's definitely just her growing up. This is her final version. I say give it some time you may grow accustomed to it. Can't change your taste but I personally still find her very cute but she has more of a mature style now with the extra years added to her appearance. I managed to find all three versions of her very attractive so I guess I'm lucky in that regard.Killuan said: I mean raphtalia in episode three looked much younger than manga/LN raphtalia...so this version is more accurate. Also in the LN raphtalia trims her bangs so that's why her hairstyle was changed. So it's just growing up in the end? Seems like I wasn't right here, I just started to read LN so I didn't know that she cut her bangs by herself and was judging it only by manga |
Mattinator95 said: he only saw raph as a child since his perception of things was all fucked up from his depression and anger. This epispde is first time he saw her as an adult so he didn't recognize her.Why did he ask who raph was again I forget |
KilluanFeb 1, 2019 11:17 AM
| Raphtalia is the true hero of this story. Amazing episode. |
Demyx_IX said: Kamiyan3991 said: It's only complicated because you're not paying attention to what is going on. Thanks for proving my pointThis story doesn't make sense tho. Episode 4 also has some dumb moments, so I posted them in the "bait" thread. TBH, the word "bait" is so overused. Same goes for SJW. Complicated? That's the last thing on my mind. Actually, do we even have a real story now? Except "defeat the waves". |
| I really love this show. |
| I like Hentai, you like real life. Instead of complaining about my tastes, be grateful you now don't have to compete against me. |
tokidoki921 said: Raphtalia is the true hero of this story. Amazing episode. Raphtalia is best girl. |
| I like Hentai, you like real life. Instead of complaining about my tastes, be grateful you now don't have to compete against me. |
Tinkman said: Did anyone notice Raphtalia design change in 4th episode? What the HELL happened to her?! Fringe, eyes, nose, cheeks... She's a totally different character now... I'm disappointed af >_< They aged her again. She's adult now while in ep 3 she was teen. |
| Great episode, frustating af same level as nisekoi |
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But can we talk about the smirk he gives to the spear guy in the arena?  He did accomplish to embarrass him, which brings out the greater potential he has amongst the others because of the diversity in his shield abilities. The people who think lightly of the Shield Hero are not yet aware but I think defense will be the key point on the oncoming more powerful Waves. We'll see... We'll see ψ(｀∇´)ψ curse requirements met And I really liked the part where Raphtalia roasted the spear guy in that slavery talk. He says all almighty things as slavery is bad, no one should be a slave while he just ignorantly lives on the top-tier. Raphtalia basically slapped him the second time with asking what HE did against slavery in this kingdom. Instant waifu. |
| Something us anime/manga viewers/readers often forget is that the characters are typically more ideal versions of humans. Humans in general are awful, so like many I found the episode really cringe but I feel as though the author unintentionally reflected what would likely really happen. I think the authors true goal was just to keep piling on the victimization of the MC. But really, just look how much of a sheep people are today, then think how big of sheep they were when there were Kings and Princess' It was the PRINCESS who made the rape accusation, much of social media THESE days go full guilty until proven innocent, it's pretty clear the 3 ijdits would have totally been white knights like they were. If some of you haven't realized yet, the spear guy isn't a bad guy. He's an anime version of PC principal from South Park. - a guy with a good heart at his core, but he wants to be a white knight and slay pussy. Especially since this was originally written so long ago, it's highly unlikely to have been intentional, it's quite amusing how relevant it has become though. |
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| Holy shit, this was awesome Can't wait to see how the "curse" affects him... or what the curse exactly does/is |
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mecegirl said: Demyx_IX said: No, its its not lazy writing and you're an idiot who has missed the point and misinterpreted what I said. What the fuck is with people and the name calling? Can't y'all have a debate without such things? But on to the actual topic. It's pretty convenient to the plot that the bow and sword hero just accepted the false accusation. Which is why it's being called lazy writing. They didn't need to spring to his defense or condemn him. They don't know him, nor are they given any other evidence about him. They also don't know Myne that well. Nor do they know the king or the kingdom that well. Nobody knows anybody so why should they take sides so quickly? Why believe the woman you have known for two days and not the man you've known for two days? There has to be something else to encourage those two to pick a side. This isn't the average he said she said simply because they are in a new world. A world where they know absolutely nothing. The spear hero is super gullible especially when it comes to women, so there is his internal motivation for believing the allegation. The bow and sword hero don't have such a handicap. Yes they are both arrogant, and they may even believe that the shied is a subpar weapon because as gamers they prefer direct attacks. But to jump from that to believing that anyone who uses a shield is a bad person? Or what...so because he doesn't play video games like the rest of them that makes him a bad person? I guess one can argue that this is all about prejudices? But what kind of prejudice is that? That people who aren't gamers, or people who prefer characters with high defense stats are horrible people? So bow and sword just had a feeling? Right dudes, whatever. Yeah I think the writing is lazy, though possibly for a different reason than SSL443. Specifically the other three heroes don't have enough depth to be proper antagonists. It's just super shallow. The other 3 heroes are dumbasses, simply as that. They are very flawed as "humans" or maybe i should say, they have a lot of personality issues that will be discussed latter (maybe, i don't know where the anime will end). They are just full of themselves and think they are superior to all the others (specially Naofumi since he is the "worst class" the shield hero) so they don't have many reasons to believe Naofumi. The princesses framed him and they believed her (she acts very friendly all the time so they it's easy to believe in her) and to make matters worse she is the princess (fact that no one new) and the KING wholeheartedly believe in her (a simple adventurer) in front of them (she is his daughter, but they don't know. There is also more things that have yet to be said) so why the other 3 heroes would not believe her as well? Specially the spear hero who is pussy slave. He will believe in any woman that is pretty and says something to good to him, period. The heroes are still being dumbasses and they could think more about the whole issue with Naofumi attacking Myne, but the truth is they simply don't care. They think this is ALL A GAME so they only care about being the "saviors of the world". All of this for them is just a game. This is a fact that has to be made clear because it will cause lots of troubles later. |
KaeUBWFeb 1, 2019 6:00 PM
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Kamiyan3991 said: Demyx_IX said: It's only complicated because you're not paying attention to what is going on. Thanks for proving my point Complicated? That's the last thing on my mind. Actually, do we even have a real story now? Except "defeat the waves". What more do you want at this point? Also, Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari is more "character based" than "plot based" (yes, if you don't know there are many series that are like this) which means the story will focus more (a looooooooooot more in this case) on the characters than the plot. If you don't like this kind of thing you may as well drop. I have read the LN until volume 12 so i know what i'm saying. The story focus on Naofumi getting stronger while joining more companions to fight anyone that comes to cause trouble for him. The plot will advance, but very very slowly. There is no point in complaining about this, you either accept and enjoy or don't and drop. It won't change. |
| I despise woke people. |
| Great episode, I'm really happy with the development of Naofumi and Raphtalia towards the end, it was a sight for sore eyes after all the crap Naofumi had to go through. Raphtalia is awesome by the way. Seeing the curse series thing unlock made me think that might actually have been the king and princess' objective, though I'm not sure how that would benefit them exactly. They seem determined to destroy Naofumi mentally so I can only think that something like that has to be the motivation behind it. The other 2 heroes noticed Malty fired a spell at Naofumi so hopefully they will finally not be so easily manipulated by her. Spear hero might be a lost cause still though, but we'll see. |
SSL443 said: AForgottenSoul said: I mean they never saw anything right in there face before, they really had no reason to doubt the princess morals or views before that scene. You people cry about poorly written character's and when they actually say something interesting/logical you still cry? Yeah... because I'm fucking arguing that it is NOT logical. Get it? Saying that I'm am crying is not an argument. Here are some quotes from the sword and bow heroes: "I was worried something bad might happen, but I was hoping you'd know better." "He thinks a hero can do whatever he wants and get away with it." "Refusing to admit his guilt and making nonsensical accusations?" "I know, right? I don't think he deserves any mercy, either." Where the hell did all that come from? You'd think that as fellow outsiders they would at the very least take a neutral position until a proper investigation and trial. But instead they pile on because the plot needs for the shield hero to be at odds with everyone. These are not the actions of complete characters. They exist so that the author can insert whatever dialog needs to be in the scene to push his narrative forward. In the first episode, he needs everyone to be against Naofumi, so we get the lines above. In the fourth episode, now he needs to start turning the tide against the King and the Princess, so once again these two are conveniently in the position to call out the Princess, apropos of nothing. It's laughably hamfisted. What could have been done to fix this? In the first episode, provide some actual characterization so that the sword and bow heroes turn against Naofumi. In the following episodes, have them start to question the events of the first episode, or otherwise provide reasons for them to start doubting the princess. Remember, they think Naofumi is a rapist. There needs to be a good reason for them to suddenly care that he gets justice (such as a fair duel) when before they had absolutely no interest in seeing justice carried out. They already think hes guilty based on what he did to that girl but after seeing her dirty tactics in from of them they will start to realise? Even though they may hate Naofumi they still respect a duel 1 on 1, its not that hard to grasp. |
SSL443 said: AForgottenSoul said: I mean they never saw anything right in there face before, they really had no reason to doubt the princess morals or views before that scene. You people cry about poorly written character's and when they actually say something interesting/logical you still cry? They didn't have any reason to doubt the shield hero either, but they sure went along with that charade nicely. They showed zero concern that due process was ignored then, yet now they are suddenly jumping in to point out that the duel wasn't "legally" won; that the princess tried to help defeat not only a supposedly known rapist, but HERS at that. Bottom line; without characterization, it isn't possible to predict how these characters will behave. Hence my assertion that they are simply doing what the plot needed them to do. It's a convergence of convenience and lazy writing. I disagree based on all that set up they obviously did have a reason to doubt the shield hero, i dont think they are doing what the plot need's them to do.. |
| The progression of this relationship between Naofumi and Raphtalia is cool. Really wish he would actually beat up Motoyasu though. Also, who decided that you can't beat somebody up with a shield? Not true at all. |
| I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
| That glitch is actually pretty good. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, kinda shows you how broken a main character that they able to unlock such a devilish power. |
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Kamiyan3991 said: Demyx_IX said: It's only complicated because you're not paying attention to what is going on. Thanks for proving my point Complicated? That's the last thing on my mind. Actually, do we even have a real story now? Except "defeat the waves". I don't want to spoil it but it has a story besides clearing waves and getting revenge from that b*tch, it's not yet clear in the anime but there are many things that you might wanna check on the future episodes before you complain that the story doesn't make any sense to you. |
AForgottenSoul said: SSL443 said: They didn't have any reason to doubt the shield hero either, but they sure went along with that charade nicely. They showed zero concern that due process was ignored then, yet now they are suddenly jumping in to point out that the duel wasn't "legally" won; that the princess tried to help defeat not only a supposedly known rapist, but HERS at that. Bottom line; without characterization, it isn't possible to predict how these characters will behave. Hence my assertion that they are simply doing what the plot needed them to do. It's a convergence of convenience and lazy writing. I disagree based on all that set up they obviously did have a reason to doubt the shield hero, i dont think they are doing what the plot need's them to do.. The dude said lazy writing lmao its only on it's fourth episode and you call that LAZY WRITING HAHAHA judge the anime when you finish watching it so the dude's argument is invalid well haters that will say LAZY WRITING to the series itself (Novel and Manga) are considered invalid because they don't understand the series entirely. That dude should just watch DBZ or some shounen shits there. |
mecegirl said: Demyx_IX said: No, its its not lazy writing and you're an idiot who has missed the point and misinterpreted what I said. What the fuck is with people and the name calling? Can't y'all have a debate without such things? But on to the actual topic. It's pretty convenient to the plot that the bow and sword hero just accepted the false accusation. Which is why it's being called lazy writing. They didn't need to spring to his defense or condemn him. They don't know him, nor are they given any other evidence about him. They also don't know Myne that well. Nor do they know the king or the kingdom that well. Nobody knows anybody so why should they take sides so quickly? Why believe the woman you have known for two days and not the man you've known for two days? There has to be something else to encourage those two to pick a side. This isn't the average he said she said simply because they are in a new world. A world where they know absolutely nothing. The spear hero is super gullible especially when it comes to women, so there is his internal motivation for believing the allegation. The bow and sword hero don't have such a handicap. Yes they are both arrogant, and they may even believe that the shied is a subpar weapon because as gamers they prefer direct attacks. But to jump from that to believing that anyone who uses a shield is a bad person? Or what...so because he doesn't play video games like the rest of them that makes him a bad person? I guess one can argue that this is all about prejudices? But what kind of prejudice is that? That people who aren't gamers, or people who prefer characters with high defense stats are horrible people? So bow and sword just had a feeling? Right dudes, whatever. Yeah I think the writing is lazy, though possibly for a different reason than SSL443. Specifically the other three heroes don't have enough depth to be proper antagonists. It's just super shallow. I also think that isn't LAZY WRITING in fact the series itself is quite deep if you ask me. Also there are things that you should confirm in the future episode before you formulate your conclusion about who is the antagonist of the story. |
CleckerooFeb 2, 2019 2:23 AM
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