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The result was merge to 2022-23 North American winter. Star Mississippi 03:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023 North American cold wave

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It was a one-day cold snap, with no substantial or lasting impacts. Fails WP:NOTNEWS, just routine short-lived weather coverage, even if more extreme than usual. Reywas92Talk 21:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge into 2022-23 North American winter I never saw this article as necessary, however, since there is some information in the article that isn’t in the respective section, I would support merging any independent content into that section. 71.125.62.146 (talk) 21:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Canada, and United States of America. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep this was a noteworthy cold event and produced the record coldest wind chill ever observed in the United States at Mount Washington, and numerous record lows were set in cities that hadn't been that cold for decades. The information in this article is well sourced and could definitely be expanded even more with some more sources that are definitely out there (i.e. which school districts delayed due to cold? Were people hospitalized with hypothermia? and so on). Highway 89 (talk) 23:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Seriously, you think we need a stand-alone article because school was delayed? Big whoop, pretty routine in the winter. 2022–23_North_American_winter#Early_February_cold_wave covers this (and has room or expansion) just fine, and it should be redirected there. There've been a lot of records broken around the world but they don't need a separate page every time. Reywas92Talk 16:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree. WP:CFORK. 69.200.249.200 (talk) 17:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I wasn't using those to establish notability, merely as a possibility for expansion of the article. The notability as a standalone article would come from the fact that multiple major records fell in this cold snap, including the Mt Washington wind chill record and Boston's first -10F temperature since the 1950s, and that national and even international news covered the event with articles that go deeper than just a one-paragraph piece ([1][2][3]). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ski areas shutting down due to cold is normal, at least not in the western US where I'm from. Highway 89 (talk) 17:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Multiple records were broken by this event. If the article can not be kept, it should be merged into 2022-23 North American winter. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Multiple records being broken is not in and of itself a reason for an article. While the article might pass WP:GNG, it miserably fails WP:NOPAGE given how it contains little information independent of the section. The only record that gives significance to the article is the record low wind chill in the US - coldest temperature since 1957 is not a reason to create an article. Given that there was only one fatality, we cannot use impact as a reason to create an article. That’s why the article should be merged. No information would be lost, and readers can find all the necessary information in one place. Not that many schools closed because the height of the cold came in Friday night and Saturday morning, the weather wasn’t too bad on Friday morning. 71.125.62.146 (talk) 15:29, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that the record-breaking information cannot stand entirely alone, however, it plays into a larger narrative of increasingly unpredictable weather. While yes, there are areas in the world where this cold wave would have seemed trivial, it happened in New England following extremely confusing weather patterns. I think for this article to stand alone, it should attempt to weave in the global and environmental concerns of hap-hazarded weather. This winter, despite having a record-breaking wind chill, has also been one of the warmest. There are frequently weeks in which the temperature highs have gone from 20's to nearly 60's. If more concerning and capturing information about the overall weather this winter is brought into the article, I believe it would stand a better chance in terms of being informational and capturing of an audience. Alternatively, I don't disagree with the idea to merge this into the 2022-23 North American winter. My only fear there is that simply merging it prevents the ability for this record-breaking event to be as impactful to readers. Eeshanortheastern (talk) 17:09, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, alternatively do a merge as suggested above. I've lived in southern Ontario all my 60+ years, and the cold snap this month was a short-lived blip. There have been whole weeks of -10 celsius and below temps in years gone by, but this lasted no more than a couple of days, and therefore doesn't warrant a standalone article. PKT(alk) 22:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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